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GyL Synths 8&8 - Gyl - 26-12-2020
8&8
(by GyL Synths - Win 32&64 bit VSTi - maybe cannot run on XP or older versions)
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SOME THOUGHTS:
Not a Roland TR-808 replica, as it is not a drum machine, just the main panel has 8 pads and 8 knobs, as my Akai LPD8 controller - inspired by this.
Now just inserted the text from the attached User Manual as I'm too lazy...:
"The goal was to make a very easily and quickly usable synthesizer with as few controls as I could imagine, but be as flexible as the limited number of controls allows.
My Akai LPD8 inspired to make a similar interface with direct coupled controls to the essential parameters.
(the LPD8 has 4 setting banks, here just wanted to use 1 to avoid the switching between the banks and make it more understandable)
As many MIDI controllers have similar controls, hopefully will be usable on other devices too.
The Octave pads work as triggers (I programmed these Akai pads to Momentary mode in the editor), while the switch pads send cc values, so probably can be replaced by sliders (0 – Off, any higher value – ON), if your controller has only that.
If any of the above is missing from your controller, just use the soft ones on the GUI.
At me the MIDI learn and forget functions worked well, hopefully at you too (right click menu on the controls)
The additional parameters are tuned to give a good starting point and you can create many presets without opening the 2nd panel and touching them. But when more control or fine tuning needed, just use them (click on the MORE... button/switch)."
Shortly:
- 7 wavetable oscs in unison mode with continuous wave morphing (tri>saw>square>pulse) and blending between 72 further waves (the tri saw-square waves are repeated...)
(with the GUI knobs - the controller knobs used to have only 128 fix values because of the 7 bit resolution...)
- 2 sub oscs with morphable wave (tri>saw>square>pulse)
- 1 main LFO to vibrato or cutoff with morphable wave (tri>saw>square>pulse)
- the LFO / Sub wave display switches to that what you adjust
- 2 hidden sine oscs in the Chorus and Reverb
- 2 envelopes (AD to filter and AR to amp) in default, but sustains can be adjusted to get ADSRs
- stereo 2 pole LP filter with env and LFO mod
- Chorus/Flanger, dual Delay and Reverb effects
- midi learn and forget for the controls
- random / init and GUI size buttons / selector
- compact size for general use, switchable full size to sound design
Added 32 so-so presets, a pdf manual, an empty bank and my init preset file in fxb/fxp and txt (the latter for the GUI preset manager).
The 3rd picture shows my setting for the Akai LPD8 controller, if helps.
Try it and make your own sounds if it works in your system! ?
Available for free in 32 & 64 bit windows VST2 formats.
FURTHER INFO:
The Hold button keeps the last pressed note - good for sound design.
Double click sets the knobs to default value.
Right click on a knob opens the MIDI forget/learn menu.
As always: if doesn't work in your system, just delete it - there are much better ones from others... 
Download it here:
GyL Synths 8&8 and 8&8 Basic.zip (Size: 16.35 MB / Downloads: 26)
VST is a trademark of Steinberg Media Technologies GmbH, registered in Europe and other countries.
RE: GyL Synths 8&8 - bluesmoke - 27-12-2020
A new plugin (or 2!) from GyL Synths is always an occasion - but this one is special!
For me the main difference between the early analogue synths I loved and later synths and plugins is their hands-on, control-per-function playability - which I think a lot more people are discovering now that hardware synths are becoming more affordable.
The classic synth sounds that people are still trying to emulate nearly half a century later are not merely patches, they are sounds created by 'keyboard wizards' who were playing the whole instrument - not just the keyboard!
Yet so few developers have designed plugins based on popular midi controllers.
Mira's Matrix 8000 (https://vst4free.com/plugin/1350/) is the only synth I can remember that was based on the BCR2000 - there should have been hundreds of them!
And I only remember 2 or 3 others based on controllers at all.
(I'm currently trying to update a few of my old ('private collection') SynthEdit synths to 64-bit, with new GUIs based on some of the more popular, affordable (low resolution) midi controllers - such as the Korg NanoControl, Akai MidiMix, Novation Launch Control, and a model released under several brand names, including SubZero and Omnitronic.
I will take a look at the LPD8 and see if I can make it work with my synths - I'm sure there are a lot of people using it or something similar.)
Once again you have proved to have the mind of a designer, the eyes of an artist, and the ears of a musician.
Thank you, Gyl.
RE: GyL Synths 8&8 - Gyl - 31-12-2020
(27-12-2020, 08:25 AM)bluesmoke Wrote: A new plugin (or 2!) from GyL Synths is always an occasion - but this one is special!
For me the main difference between the early analogue synths I loved and later synths and plugins is their hands-on, control-per-function playability - which I think a lot more people are discovering now that hardware synths are becoming more affordable.
The classic synth sounds that people are still trying to emulate nearly half a century later are not merely patches, they are sounds created by 'keyboard wizards' who were playing the whole instrument - not just the keyboard!
Yet so few developers have designed plugins based on popular midi controllers.
Mira's Matrix 8000 (https://vst4free.com/plugin/1350/) is the only synth I can remember that was based on the BCR2000 - there should have been hundreds of them!
And I only remember 2 or 3 others based on controllers at all.
(I'm currently trying to update a few of my old ('private collection') SynthEdit synths to 64-bit, with new GUIs based on some of the more popular, affordable (low resolution) midi controllers - such as the Korg NanoControl, Akai MidiMix, Novation Launch Control, and a model released under several brand names, including SubZero and Omnitronic.
I will take a look at the LPD8 and see if I can make it work with my synths - I'm sure there are a lot of people using it or something similar.)
Once again you have proved to have the mind of a designer, the eyes of an artist, and the ears of a musician.
Thank you, Gyl.
Wow, many thanks for your nice words, dear Bluesmoke / Blue Smoke! :-)
I bought the LPD8 & LPK25 combo when still just collected the VSTs and found the MiniMogue LUXUS TD. Made my 1st presets for myself on it and was very proud... :-D
It was a pleasure, when could touch and tweak real knobs, a nice memory and still love that synth.
Later tried to make some own ones and Marsaut was the 1st, what sent to VST Planet and programmed fix cc numbers to the knobs, so could use my LPD8 with it.
Some synths later made the MiniBull, a Moog Minitaur inspired synth with many own ideas and this had fix cc assignments too.
LPD8 has 4 programs, so practically there are 32 knobs and 32 switches/buttons (depending on the actual controller programming), so I could control all parameters of the MiniBull externally and the patch making was a pleasure.
I was thinking about a very minimalist synth for a long time, which could be used without program change - just using the 8 knobs and the 8 pads.
Many controllers have this config, so started to build it, but later added the 2nd (More...) panel to give more flexibility for those, who need it.
Unfortunately the 128 value for wave morphing/blending is very few, but tried to make the mouse control to slow enough to be useful for this job.
The scope was to build a synth for myself, what like to use - funny, because don't make music, just like to listen and sometimes pushing the keys without any playing educations...
Some of my synths are much more complex, but I really prefer the simple ones. Here the inspiration came from some DVS synths, Kriminal Voltaire and similarly minimalist ones.
Tried to find-out, how could use the 8+8 controls on the most effective way(s) - maybe later will make other versions too, if have time and other ideas.
When this actual one came in my mind (in the bathroom... :-D ), started to make it quickly.
And again, the patch making was a pleasure with the real knobs...
Searched for your web page and love the GUI designs! Surely you have much more than those 2 and definitely are great!
64 bit compatibility is more and more needed by the new VST users, so a good step that you make compatible the older designs.
Bam some days ago noted that the future of M-S will be on an other platform, so I'm now trying to discover it.
Normally my main synth activity goes on the Facebook, in the GyL Synths group, so unfortunately here am not so up-to-date.
Started that group for my lame synths 4-5 years ago, but actually is a very general synth-related page, many developers joined from the SynthEdit and Synthmaker/Flowstone worlds. Some days ago arrived Kalfelz "Wusik" William, and though not active, but there is Axel Hartmann too - what a pleasure for a nobody (me)...!
Planning to upload more of my earlier/recent synths to here (or the new M-S site), if you or others like them.
I don't really use them, so my pleasure if somebody eventually yes... :-)