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The Roland Jupiter 6 >Vs< Jupiter 8

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The Roland Jupiter-6 (JP-6) is a synthesizer manufactured by the Roland Corporation introduced in January 1983. Although introduced as a less expensive ($2,500-$3,000 market price) alternative to the Roland Jupiter-8, its features include some capabilities not present in the JP-8. The Jupiter-6 is widely considered a workhorse among polyphonic analog synthesizers, capable of producing a wide variety of sounds, such as ambient drones, pads, lead synthesizer lines, unison basses and techy blips and buzzes. It is renowned for its reliability and ease, but with sophisticated programmability.
Manufacturer
Roland
Dates
1983 - 1985
Price
US$2995
UK£2250
JP¥490,000
Technical specifications
Polyphony
6 voices
Timbrality
2
Oscillator
2 VCOs per voice
LFO
2, 1 in LH control section (sine) / 1 programmable, sine/triangle/sawtooth/square
Synthesis type
Analog Subtractive
Filter
1 resonant multi-mode (lowpass/bandpass/hipass) filter
Attenuator
2 ADSR
Aftertouch expression
No
Velocity expression
No
Storage memory
48 tones/32 patches
Effects
None
Input/output
Keyboard
61 keys
External control
MIDI
The JP-6 has 12 analog oscillators (2 per voice), and is bitimbral, allowing its keyboard to be "split" into two sounds - one with 4 voices, and one with the remaining 2 voices (either "Split 4/2" or "Split 2/4" mode). "Whole Mode" is also available, dedicating all 6 voices to single (monotimbral) sound across the entire keyboard. Available waveforms include sawtooth, triangle, variable width pulse, square, and noise. Unusually, the JP-6 allows simultaneous selection of any or all of the waveforms in each of its two oscillator banks, an option not found on the JP-8. Oscillator sync and cross modulation are also available. "Unison Mode" allows all 12 oscillators to be triggered simultaneously by depressing a single key. Unison Mode can also be played polyphonically, with the number of oscillators triggered by each key determined by the number of keys held down.
The JP-6 was among the first electronic instruments (alongside the Roland JX-3P and the Sequential Circuits Prophet-600) to feature MIDI, then a brand new technology. Sequential CEO Dave Smith demonstrated MIDI by connecting the Prophet to a Jupiter-6 during the January, 1983 Winter NAMM Show.
Europa, a popular firmware upgrade available from Synthcom Systems, adds a wide array of modern enhancements to the instrument's MIDI implementation, user interface, patch memory, and most especially its arpeggiator, turning the Jupiter-6 into a contemporaneously adaptable instrument and unique composition tool.
The Jupiter-6 is an incredible analog synth. All of the Jupiters have a sound that was unlike any other synthesizer and the Jup 6 is no exception. This sound is due in part to classic analog Roland technology in its filters, modulation capabilities and a thick cluster of 12 analog oscillators at 2 per voice. Easy and intuitive programming via front panel sliders, knobs and buttons for all your tweaking needs.
The Jup 6 is a scaled down version of the Jup 8 in terms of programming and polyphony. However the Jup 6 has some major improvements of its own such as newly added MIDI control and better tuning stability! While the Jup 6 does have MIDI, the implementation is very rudimentary and hard to control. The Jup 6 was one of the very first (along with the Sequential Prophet 600) synths to use the then new MIDI protocol, and the implementation on the Jup 6 is far from complete.
Synthcom Systems, Inc. offers the Europa firmware upgrade for the Jupiter-6 which gives it an up-to-date and comprehensive MIDI implementation. All parameters are controllable via Continuous Controller or SysEx. Europa also features an extensive arpeggiator which will sync to MIDI clock with programmable clock divisors and rhythms, and has about 50 more playback variations than the JP-6's original Up, Down, Up/Down, and Down/Up. A Europacized Jupiter-6 is a thoroughly modern synth with a classic sound.
The Jupiter-6 is an excellent for ambient drones, pads, blips, buzzes and leads. The Jupiter-6 is known for being a very reliable, programmable, polyphonic, analog monster of a synthesizer! It is used by Orbital, Moby, Überzone, Devo, BT, The Prodigy, Vangelis, The Chemical Brothers, The Crystal Method, ZZ Top, Duran Duran, Moog Cookbook, and Blur.
SPECIFICATIONS
Polyphony - 6 voices
Oscillators - 2 VCO's per voice (12 oscillators total!)
LFO - 2 LFO's with 4-waveforms (sine, tri, ramp, random)
Filter - 24 dB/oct 4-pole lowpass/high pass or 12 dB/oct 2-pole bandpass with their own ADSR envelope
VCA - 2 Standard ADSR's with keyboard track and mixer to balance oscillator levels
Effects - None
Arpeg/Seq - 1 Arpeggiator
Memory - 48 tones / 32 patches
Keyboard - 61 keys
Control - MIDI
Date Produced - 1983

Jupiter 8

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The Jupiter-8, or JP-8, is an eight-voice polyphonic analog subtractive synthesizer introduced by Roland Corporation in early 1981.
Manufacturer
Roland Corporation
Dates
1981–1985
Price
¥980,000 JPY
$5295 US
£3995 GBP
Technical specifications
Polyphony
8 voices
Timbrality
2
Oscillator
2 VCOs per voice
LFO
1 triangle/square/sawtooth/random
Synthesis type
analog subtractive
Filter
12 or 24 dB/octave resonant lowpass,
non-resonant highpass
1 ADSR envelope for VCF
Attenuator
1 ADSR envelope for VCA
Aftertouch expression
No
Velocity expression
No
Storage memory
64 patches
Effects
None
Input/output
Keyboard
61 keys
External control
DCB (on later models)
The Jupiter-8 was Roland's flagship synthesizer for the first half of the 1980s. Although it lacked the soon-to-be standard of MIDI control, later model Jupiter-8s did include Roland's proprietary DCB interface. The Jupiter-8 had many advanced features for its time, including the ability to split the keyboard into two zones with a separate patch active on each zone.
The Jupiter-8 is an 8-voice polyphonic analog synthesizer. Each voice features two discrete VCOs with cross-modulation and sync, pulse-width modulation, a non-resonant high-pass filter, a resonant Low-pass filter with 2-pole (12 dB/octave) and 4-pole (24 dB/octave) settings, an LFO with variable waveforms and routings, and two envelope generators (one invertible).
Features include adjustable polyphonic portamento and a hold function for infinite sustain of notes and arpeggios. A versatile arpeggiator can be synchronized with external equipment by using the proprietary Roland DCB interface, clock input via CV jacks on the rear panel or one of the aftermarket MIDI kits from Encore or Kenton. An assignable bender can be used to control pitch or filter frequency.
From the factory, the JP-8 could store 64 patches. Patches could be stored and loaded from a standard analog tape/cassette. The Encore JP8MK MIDI kit doubles the patch memory to 128[1] and enables the JP-8 to store and recall patches over a MIDI connection, using a computer with sysex utility software.
The Jupiter-8 includes balanced stereo XLR outputs as well as unbalanced 1/4" outputs. In addition to monophonic and polyphonic modes, the Jupiter-8 includes a unique polyphonic unison mode, in which all 16 oscillators can be stacked onto one note, but divide down if more keys are pressed. No other polyphonic synthesizer at the time had this feature.
A Zilog Z80 CPU was used for managing storage of patches, scanning the keyboard and front-panel controls for changes, displaying the current patch number and other information on the display and taking care of the auto-tune function, among other operations.[2]The VCF was based on the custom Roland IR3109 IC (also used in the filter circuits of the Jupiter-6, later Jupiter-4 units, MKS-80 rev 4, Juno-6/Juno-60/Juno-106, SH-101, MC-202, JX-3P and packaged in the 80017a chip used in the Juno-106 and MKS-30, among others). The VCA was the BA662, used also in Juno-6/60/106, JX-3P and TB-303. The envelopes were generated in hardware by the Roland IR3R01 chip (also in the Juno 6/60), and are much faster (1ms attack) than the software-generated envelopes used in the later Jupiter-6, Juno-106 and MKS-80 "Super Jupiter."
SPECIFICATIONS
Polyphony - 8 voices
Oscillators - 2 VCO's per voice (16 oscillators's!) switchable between triangle, sawtooth, pulse, and square waves plus noise on OSC 2
LFO - 4-waveform (sine, tri, ramp, random) LFO
Filter - Low pass filter with 2-pole (12 dB/oct) and 4-pole (24 dB/oct) modes, Env Mod, LFO MOd, Key Follow. Separate 6 dB/oct high pass filter.
VCA - Standard ADSR and mixer to balance oscillator levels
Memory - 64 patches and 8 patch presets
Keyboard - 61 note keyboard
Control - DCB Roland to Roland sync/interface on some models
Date Produced - 1981 - 1984

Guter Kumpel hat beide erworben, als die eigentlich schon viel zu teuer aber noch nicht unanständig teurer waren. 

Nutzungsverhältnis ist 90 % J6 zu 10 % J8. 

Der einzige Grund den J8 nicht abzustoßen ist quasi den Verkauf dann doch irgendwann mal zu bereuen, weil man realistisch betrachtet sich so einen als Normalsterblicher nicht mehr holen kann.

Ist nur eine Frage der Zeit, wann Behringer einen der Jupiter-Geräte reproduziert. Mir persönlich würde das ausreichen, 700 - 800 Euro wären absolut ok und den Vintage-Wahnsinn mache ich eh nicht mit... womit auch Wink .
Den Juptier 8 habe ich nur als Emulation von Arturia. Vorteil nimmt keinen physischen Platz weg.....

Hatte längere Zeit den Roland Alpha Juno II als Leihgabe, obwohl er relativ scheiße zu bedienen war, hatte er Charakter.

https://bamdorner.bandcamp.com/track/alpha

Der Track wurde ca. 1993/4 noch mit dem Amiga gemacht, glaube mit dem Kawai K1 + dem Alpha Juno
Die original-Version ist verschollen, aber der Track hat als MIDI-Datei überlebt und wurde in Cubase importiert